Battlezone 1

Well this is a new one called firewall abuse! Some players use the means of a firewall to gain score. For instance if you have a person blocked he becomes your allie.So he really helps you kill players.I understand banning players who are hacked yes I have a few on my firewall.usually the ones who ban players do that because their player banned is better than them and they don't want their score messed up.



that is one means of cheating ok the other is old fps issue. Some run 85fps some run more and some run with vsync off.The normal fps to BZ is 60,if your running more than that your in cheating range.The game is old and its hard I know to keep at this level,but try and be fair to not run over 60 fps if possible

Thx and have a nice day

Yeah, 3 ways to cheat in Bz nowdays... in the past there was only (1.) hacking - changing of Bz files, year ago we got (2.) major FPS tweaking - changing of graphic card settings to get more speed due to game bug, and now we have (3.) firewall exploiting - banning of few players in the game to gain secret ally.

I'm trying to make a list of those 3 types of cheaters here, but I'm not always online and i can't be in every game so if I missed someone or if you think I posted someone falsely please write here.

As far as I know there are 3 big hackers: MadCroatDisease, Assman and Genx

Number of FPS tweakers is too big, but guys you can't miss due to enormous speed are: reaper, FOX19, Painstalker, WereWolf, Tailspin, Tug, Bart, BUM, Trinity, OddBall, BFT, CF.

As for having firewall, I can't really blame anyone who has MadCroatDisease (or any other confirmed and admitted hacker) banned even though he is not a host, because some hosts let them in. Some do it for fun in killing a hacker, but some do it to team others with him.
When Danny set his hacks to medium (better ship performances and regular snipe hack) it is very enjoyable to kill him, but there are games when he has heavy hacks (when he can snipe from a tank) and those games are unplayable.

Number of those who have few players (not hackers) banned to achieve better score is raising every day (since BFT's ban tutorial).
With few others I confirmed that fierewall cheaters are: reaper, FOX19, OddBall, BFT, TailSpin, CF, BUM, reeper.

So, did I miss anyone?

P.S. When you notice that in the game is player who has you banned your duty is to report that to the host and others so all could become aware who is the cheater.

I never have anyone permanently banned, the last thing i wanna do is have a firewall running in the background it causes lag. The only times i break out the F/W is when im in an old strat game where a hack keeps rejoining to destroy the bases then leave, OR rarely....when trying to have a good ol DM ffa as a walk, i get teamed up on by as much as 6 on 1 sometimes, Spock, you've done this too in those team games. u were in game, then said "bye bye" then went to 100% and were still getting kills/killed

You hackers stick together, you don't fight each other and you go after the one who noticed your hacks and warned others.

When I was with you (Assman) and Danny (MCD) in that game I had to pick which hacker to ban. I didn't do it because of higher score, I did it so I could kill the other hacker in peace (2 hackers are too much, even for me ). When I'm in the game with hacker I don't shoot others, I only sometimes do it in self defense, when dummies are around.

What reaper does is something completely different, he bans fair players (Valak) and pretends like nothing happened, he does it because of score only.
Fair guys are choosing a vehicle in the game pre-screen, while cheater like reaper are choosing who to ban.

i am getting tired of firewall abusers... whenever i see one i warn the host and other players in the game. in 9 out of 10 cases nobody reacts, they all keep playing like everything is fine. like that, i'm forced to team with the cheater.

well, i won't do it anymore, i don't want to team with dummies like CF, BFT, fox, navbeacon etc. from now on, in those scenarios i will turn my firewall on and ban all but host. if he likes to have 1 firewall abuser in his game, he will be more than happy with 2.

While I think Spock is fighting back the wrong way, I agree that you should only have firewall on if you're the host and not if you're joining a game. It's going to cause problems and confusion in the long run. If you're that desperate to not play with these people then you should only host games and not join any.

I hate fecking hackers or tweackers. I dont even like it when someone changes there gamma in games.

its better to make the game hacker proof than just block the hackers.

mainly because bz has such a low player count.

or maybe a warning then a BAN!! but the firewall on the main server

BzE is not hacker proof. Nothing is ever hacker proof.

The "hackers" (script kiddies) who can't figure out how to cheat in BzE will of course stay in regular BZ, and the honest players who like regular BZ better will also stay in BZ and simply firewall the cheaters.

Making the game harder to hack won't increase the number of players.

In fact, at the time of this posting, BzE 1.1 has been out for a while. Do people play it now? Nope.

We BZ lovers prefer REAL BZ, not a silly mod with unnecessary changes to strat and other things.

Just to point out hypocrisy of the topic starter... Warchild (along with Attack Rat, BFT & Chetnik) is ATM the biggest firewall abuser in BZ. They ban few players in every game, sometimes they even do it in the middle of the play, depending on a threat and score. Every host should ban them before creating a game. They change names daily, but their IP's are listed on the Wall of Shame.